Comments on: More snark

By: baal_kriah

baal_kriah — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:40:51 +0000

The only real difference is their rationale. The state’s control is exerted in the name of the “children”, the sect’s control in the name of “God”.

By: sheilagh

sheilagh — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:38:39 +0000

except for the wastefulness of dumping unwanted males at age 18 (no training, no mainstream culture readiness, etc.)

That and the voluntarily limited gene pool do seem to be something of a drawback to efficiency (serious handicapped children drain resources, whether from the extended family, or from State support systems).

By: beowulf1723

beowulf1723 — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 22:26:41 +0000

So is the “barefoot and pregnant, no abortions” approach of the RCC.

By: xephyr

xephyr — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:52:09 +0000

Entrance to heaven is a mighty attractive carrot. Makes ya wonder where the driver is leading that cart.

In any case, for any small group of humans wanting to become a large group of humans in a short span of time, polygamous marriage is a highly efficient strategy.

By: sheilagh

sheilagh — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:38:08 +0000

In normal Christian cultures, there’s a roughly 1-1 gender ratio of adults.

For FLDS, they specifically want more women and less men, so that worthy men can have the 3+ wives that are necessary in order to enter heaven.

If Christians didn’t have comparatively excess nubmers of women, the now-husbandless-women (of hypothetical rule-breaking men) would be recycled to new marriages, helping SOMEone(male) get closer to heaven.

By: beowulf1723

beowulf1723 — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 21:19:09 +0000

Let’s see if I have this straight:

In the FLDS society, the women and children actually belong to the prophet and/or the elders, and not to the individual men. Disobedience, real or imagined, can cause the offender’s family to be reassigned by the Power(s) That Be.

In the Texas society, the children belong to the State, and not to the individuals referred to as “parents.” Disobedience, real or imagined, can cause the offender’s minor family members to be reassigned by the Power(s) That Be.

In “normal” Christian cultures, there is a residue of the Roman attitude that the family is the extension of the man. If a Roman soldier was convicted of cowardice, for example, not only would he be executed, but his entire family would be turned out into the street and basically ostracized and left to starve. “Sins of the father” and all that jazz.

I can’t se that there’s a hell of a lot of difference in them.

By: kaffee_spinne

kaffee_spinne — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:58:00 +0000

What’s sadder, is that these kids are now going to be split up, “absorbed” into the TX Foster Care system, end up in poverty, in prisons, and on psychiatric medications.

Yay Texas.

By: kaffee_spinne

kaffee_spinne — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 20:56:26 +0000

I know right?

Part of me thinks, what’s worse..a teenage girl getting pregnant and roped into early marriage with an irresponsible teen boy (or abandoned by one), or a teen girl taken in by an already economically stable family that can provide a support system of other children and infrastructure?

The families I see at HEB on welfare look considerably less healthy and happy than the FLDS families. But that’s just my opinion, having grown up near inner city of Oakland and seeing single 15 year old moms of 2+ kids considerably less positive of environments surrounding them.